When he was 16 years old, Bryant Terry became vegan.
It raised some eyebrows in his black Southern home, where traditional dishes were meaty, and butter-fried. Today, he's made food his career, as a chef, an author, a food justice activist and the first-ever Chef-in-Residence at MoAD, the Museum of the African Diaspora.
On his recent visit to Crosscurrents, we chatted about his food philosophy, and why veganism is still seen as elitist.
"It's one thing to say to individuals should be eating more healthfully and eating a plant-based diet. But when there aren't the resources so people can feed their family in that way, then it goes beyond just individual choice."
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