The snow leopard, listed as "endangered" by the International Union for Conservation of Nature since 1972, was reclassified as "vulnerable" earlier this month. So what does that mean for the survival of the species?
KALW's Ben Trefny spoke with Rodney Jackson, founder and director of the Snow Leopard Conservancy, based in Sonoma, California. They discussed Jackson's role on the classification committee, the science behind counting numbers of an elusive animal, how conservation organizations disagree about what's best for the animal, and what people should think about the new listing.
A longer version of this conversation can be found here: