Education can take many shapes - just ask Phoenix Paz. She's a teacher of contortion at the San Francisco Circus Center, and says she made her home in circus arts because she wanted to push her body to its limits.
It's like finding a wall and pushing past that wall, it's achieving the impossible, it's pushing yourself past the limits that you think you can hit.
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Paz and the Circus Center artists perform their new cabaret,Champagne and Starlight, tomorrow and Saturday in San Francisco.