Out in the Bay

Thursdays 7pm
  • Hosted by produced and hosted by Eric Jansen & Marilyn Pittman

Out in the Bay - Gay Radio from San Francisco    

Queer histories, herstories, personalities and issues are explored with humor, insight, and sensitivity each week on Out in the Bay.  We've been called “the gay Fresh Air” and even "the gay Tavis Smiley." We’ve interviewed such celebrities as film directors Ang Lee and John Waters, comedians Margaret Cho and Marga Gomez, singers Leslie Gore and Michael Feinstein,  actors, authors and more.  We’ve also featured historians, scholars, and activists -- including Phyllis Lyon and the late Del Martin -- with compelling stories about the reality of LGBT life. 

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7pm Thursday. Historians debated for decades whether Eleanor Roosevelt was a lesbian. Writer Terry Baum's and director Carolyn Myers' new play, Hick: A Love Story - The Romance of Lorena Hickok and Eleanor Roosevelt is about the romance between arguably America’s most influential First Lady - the wife of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, President during the Great Depression and World War 2 (1933-45) - and the USA’s most prominent woman journalist at the time. Eric Jansen hosts this conversation with Baum and Myers, in which they perform scenes from the play to preview it for Out in the Bay listeners, 7pm Thursday. Hick: A Love Story, co-presented by the Crackpot Crones and Theatre Rhinoceros, runs July 10-27 in San Francisco's Eureka Theatre. All performances are FREE, but reservations are required


Uncovering a censored lesbian poet from Russia’s Silver Age. As Russia continues its anti-gay crackdown, Oakland-based women’s chorus Kitka performs "I will remember everything," a world premiere of a cappella music that gives voice to poems by Sophia Parnok, a censored lesbian poet from Russia’s Silver Age a century ago.  Some call Parnok “Russia’s Sappho.” Out in the Bay's Eric Jansen and Nora Elmeligy stopped by Kitka's rehearsal Monday night to capture some of the sumptuous music being prepared for the June 20-22 premiere, and to speak with Kitka director and singer Shira Cion and composer Eric Banks, who translated Parnok’s poems and set them to music, about their inspiration for this concert.  Broadcast: 7pm PDT Thursday, June 12, on kalw.org + 91.7 FM SF Bay Area. [photo: Myles Boisen]

Tranny: Now The T-Word

Jun 4, 2014
Nick Ice


Did you know you're not supposed to say 'tranny' any more when referring to transexuals or transvestites?  Bowing to pressure from transexual activists, the internationally known drag event, 

  "Trannyshack," has had to change its name to "T-Shack."  San Francisco promoter Heklina talks with host and producer Marilyn Pittman about why and what it means for her brand, her club, and her politics. Thursday at 7pm Pacific Time, kalw.org and 91.7fm, San Francisco. 

Harvey Milk Celebrated

May 20, 2014

Thursday, May 22nd is the debut of the Harvey Milk postage stamp.  "Out In The Bay's" Marilyn Pittman talks with James Black and Charles Morris, the authors of  "An Archive of Hope,"  a collection of Harvey Milk's speeches, columns, and campaign materials. Hear about Harvey's passion for government by the people and his campaign motto: "You gotta give 'em hope." Thursday, May 22nd, at 7pm right after "Fresh Air.  (originally aired October 13, 2013)

Destiny Arts: Helping Youth Out

May 15, 2014

Even in the S.F.

While a young housewife with kids in the 1950s and ’60s, Ann Bannon was a paperback writer of lesbian love stories. Scorned by the literary elite, her and other authors’ pulp fiction helped build the gay rights movement, and reading them now gives us a historical glimpse into gay and lesbian life in those times. Monica Nolan just finished the fourth book in her Lesbian Career-Girl series, spoofs of 1960s high school girls’ career primers that humorously pay homage to lesbian pulp fiction like Ann’s from last century. They both join host Eric Jansen live tonight. We’ll also hear from comedy writer and actor Bruce Vilanch, now starring in 42nd Street Moon’s production of the 1939 musical Du Barry Was A Lady. Did you know he wrote a disco song for Eartha Kitt? You'll hear about that, too, in this special hour-long edition of Out in the Bay.

Lesbian Pulp Fiction, 21st Century Style

Apr 3, 2014


San Francisco writer Monica Nolan has just completed the fourth book in her saucy Lesbian Career Girl series. With titles like “Lois Lenz, Lesbian Secretary," “Bobby Blanchard, Lesbian Gym Teacher” and “Maxie Mainwaring, Lesbian Dilletante,” they’re spoofs of 1950s and ‘60s career primers for high school girls, and humorous homages to lesbian pulp fiction of the same era – often-maligned literature that helped build the gay rights movement. Join Nolan with Out in the Bay host Eric Jansen as they read selections from her racy fiction -- including a sneak peek from her yet-to-be-released "Dolly Dingle, Lesbian Landlady" --  and discuss how historically-set novels and film document the changes in societal norms and LGBT rights over the years. (Aired April 3)

Tyler Clementi was an 18-year-old Rutgers University freshman who killed himself after his roommate recorded webcam videos of Tyler’s lustful encounters with another man, then invited other students to view them.

Sister Spit's 2014 tour kicks off March 19 in San Francisco! Award-winning writers Michelle Tea and Ali Liebegott (Sister Spit co-founder and long-time contributor respectively) fill us in on the San Francisco-based queer feminist writers cabaret that traverses the USA and other countries spreading queer culture. They also read from their latest books: Michelle Tea's is Mermaid in Chelsea Creek; Ali Liebegott's is Cha-Ching! ; Michelle also reads from the anthology Sister Spit: Writing, Rants and Reminiscence from the Road. Eric Jansen hosts. 

Julia Jackson: Children Are Forever

Feb 13, 2014


Did you know black babies are half the cost as white babies and you don't have to wait as long? Marilyn Pittman talks with comic Julia Jackson about her new solo show, "Children Are Forever (All Sales Are Final)," a look at a biracial lesbian couple who adopt a black baby. Hilarious, poignant. Thursday, 7pm Pacific, February 13, 2014. 

Gay Russia: An Oxymoron?

Feb 6, 2014

Journalist and Russophile David Tuller joins Marilyn Pittman to talk about all things anti-gay in Russia on the eve of the Sochi Olympics. His book, "Cracks In The Iron Closet," detailed gay life in Russia in the early 90's where he made a new gay family. He has trained journalists throughout the former Soviet Union. Currently, he is the academic coordinator for the master's program in public health and journalism at UC Berkeley. Thursday, February 6th, 7pm Pacific. 


Angered by evictions, Google buses, NSA spying and "climate change"? Eric Jansen's guest on Out in the Bay, 7pm Thursday on KALW, is Krissy Keefer, artistic director of San Francisco's all-women performance troupe Dance Brigade. The company's current production, Hemorrhage: An Ablution of Hope & Despair, uses the Mission District and its eviction epidemic as a backdrop to explore local, regional and world crises – global warming, war, genocide, attacks on women and on San Francisco’s cultural core. Hemorrhage: An Ablution of Hope & Despair, plays at Dance Mission Theater through February 8.

Marilyn Pitman hosts comics Casey Ley, Marga Gomez, and Karinda Dobbins who talk about their upcoming shows, and a chat with Salt Lake City activist Troy Williams on last week's historic gay marriage rulings in Utah.

New Year's Comedy By The Bay and Hilarity in Utah!

Dec 26, 2013

The last show of 2013 has host Marilyn Pittman talking about New Year's Eve shows with local out comics. Live in the studio: comedian Casey Ley (pictured), plus comics Karinda Dobbins, and Marga Gomez by phone.  Plus a special call-in from Salt Lake City's leading gay rights activist, Troy Williams, on the gay marriage rulings of the last week. History, hilarity and more from the 'gay Terry Gross!'

"I ... do? Wait, let me think about it."

Dec 16, 2013

Experts help homo and hetero couples weigh the pros and cons of getting married by year-end. Just because it's now legal for same-sex couples to marry in California and many other states, and the federal government must recognize those marriages, should you? There are financial advantages for some to get hitched by Dec. 31, but disadvantages for others, and there are many other potential risks and benefits.

Holiday Music and Comedy Galore!

Dec 10, 2013


What would the holidays be without a little Judy? Connie Champagne talks with host Marilyn Pittman about her Judy Garland show “Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas” on December 18th. On the flip side, there’s comedy and satire from The Crackpot Crones, a lesbian sketch comedy duo. Playwright and actor Terry Baum joins Marilyn as well. Music and clips! 

Thursday, December 12th, at 7pm Pacific. kalw.org and 91.7fm in San Francisco.

Cabarets & More for the Holidays

Dec 5, 2013

Eric Jansen's guests Thursday night at 7 are singers Russ Lorenson & Veronica Klaus. They perform in Lorenson's 8th Annual Christmas in San Francisco, taking place Friday and Saturday, Dec. 13 and 14, at Pa'ina Lounge & Restaurant, 1865 Post Street. Live in KALW studios, they'll share some of their music, and we'll also talk about the Bay Area cabaret scene; Lorenson's new organization, Artists Helping Artists (AHA!); and other queer holiday entertainment options in and around San Francisco.

Making the holidays queerly more comfortable!

Nov 26, 2013



God Loves Uganda is a new feature-length documentary about the influence of U.S.-based evangelical Christian missionaries who have been whipping up anti-gay religious fervor in Uganda for many years.  Uganda’s parliament is still considering a proposed Anti-Homosexuality Bill that, even though the death penalty has been removed from it, would still be one of the most punitive anti-gay measures in the world. The link that God Loves Uganda shows between religious extremists in this country and the virulent homophobia in Uganda is chilling and creepy.  Filmmaker Roger Ross Williams visited KALW studios to play film clips and talk about his journeys to Africa and Missouri to make this documentary with Out in the Bay's Eric Jansen. (Broadcast Oct. 31, 2013)


Special Adoptions: Thursday at 7pm, Out in the Bay host Eric Jansen speaks with Dennis Hanley, the gay single adoptive dad of three brothers, and with Doni DeBolt, the executive director of Adopt A Special Kid (AASK). Founded 40 years ago, this Oakland-based agency was among the first in the U.S. to encourage lesbian, gay, single, lower-income and older adults to adopt children, and the first to focus on special needs children, including sets of siblings, older kids, and queer youth neglected in foster care.  Live interview 7pm Thursday, Oct. 24, on kalw.org + 91.7 FM; listen after broadcast at OutInTheBay.org

'Hate Speech' - for Piano and Audience Cell Phones

Oct 17, 2013

Out in the Bay host Eric Jansen talks with New York pianist, activist and “modern music evangelist” Adam Tendler. His composition "Hate Speech," for piano and audience cell phones, has its West Coast premiere this Saturday. It’s a protest piece dedicated to the memory of Matthew Shepard, with whispered words culled from a Tea Party politician's Facebook page. Adam Tendler performs "Hate Speech" and other pieces Saturday night in Modern Piano Lineages, a concert at San Francisco's Center for New Music with KALW Revolutions Per Minute host Sarah Cahill.

Adam joined Eric live in KALW studios to talk about "Hate Speech," modern music, and his memoir about coming out during his "88x50" piano recital tour of every state in the U.S.A.  And, in an Out in the Bay exclusive, he played live in our studio on a cheap Casio electronic keyboard to demonstrate the intricacies of a rarely-performed Philip Glass composition,"Two Pages," he'll play Saturday. Modern Piano Lineages, featuring Adam Tendler and Sarah Cahill, starts 8pm, Saturday, Oct. 19, at the Center for New Music, 55 Taylor St., San Francisco. Click here for concert info

Big thanks to Virgin America for changing Adam’s flight to SFO without extra fees so that he could be here for Thursday’s interview.


San Francisco’s latest survey of its homeless children and adults found that 29% of them were gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender, while only about 15% of the city’s overall population is LGBT. So Monday, the city holds its first-ever LGBTQ Connect, a targeted version of its Project Homeless Connect events that help low-income people find housing and a wide range of services. Tonight on Out in the Bay, Eric Jansen’s guests are Project Homeless Connect program director Emily Cohen and AIDS Housing Alliance SF director Brian Basinger, instrumental in creating LGBTQ Connect. Tune in 7pm Thursday to learn about the services to be offered Monday at LGBTQ Connect and for a discussion about what "homeless" means in today's economy, why LGBT people have a hard time in homeless shelters and a hard time getting services, how evictions are disproportionately affecting LGBT people, and how San Francisco and other cities are addressing these challenges. 

At the Seams: Eli Conley's "folk songs for misfits"

Sep 12, 2013
Sarah Deragon

Eli Conley sings of love, prisons, coal mining, religion, homophobia and leaving Virginia on his new CD At The Seams, an album he calls "modern-day folk songs for misfits." Hear Eli's music and his chat with Out in the Bay host Eric Jansen about his life, his songwriting and how he helps other transgender singers find their voices. 


Jose Sarria was the first openly gay person to run for public office in the United States.  He passed away on August 19th and his memorial is Friday the 6th at Grace Cathedral in San Francisco.  Marilyn Pittman visits with historian and photographer Dan Nicoletta, portrayed in the 2008 movie 'Milk,' about Jose Sarria's life and legacy.  Airs Thursday, 9/5/13 at 7pm. 

"The End of San Francisco" -- according to Mattilda

Aug 27, 2013


Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore, the provocative, angry, queer anti-assimilationist writer, is back on Out in the Bay, 7pm Thursday, with her latest ... manifesto? Or memoir?  (Even though she’s only 40) In The End of San Francisco, Mattilda deals with family, incest, gay sex work, the digital ruination of our City by the Bay, political correctness and its stifling effect on activism and even just talking with one another, and much more. Join Mattilda and host Eric Jansen for another, in Mattilda’s words, “delicious conversation” about life, struggles, triumphs -- ours and the cities we live in. 

The Boy Who Was Not a Lesbian

Aug 21, 2013

7pm Thursday. What makes us male or female? Or somewhere in between?


Out In The Bay Goes Walking In San Francisco

Aug 7, 2013


San Francisco is a city for walking tours and why not show tourists the seedy side?  Leave it to a drag queen!  Host Marilyn Pittman talks with Rick Shelton, aka "Lola Montez," about his two-hour walking tour and the rich San Francisco history you won't get on the mainstream tours. As Lola says:   "Hear stories of the Barbary Coast. San Francisco was rich in more than gold. Many came to San Francisco to "start over," to follow their dreams. The common met the exotic." Thursday, November 7th, at 7pm right after "Fresh Air." 


Out In The Bay: Connie Does Judy

Jul 18, 2013

San Francisco's legendary chanteuse Connie Champagne talks with host Marilyn Pittman about her Judy Garland show "Behind The Wig," Sunday, July 28th, at The Boxcar Playhouse in the city by the bay.  She'll also talk about her role in 'Hedwig and The Angry Inch," running through August 10th at the Boxcar. Plus, of course, some of her music. Thursday, July 25th,  at 7pm.